Hydraulic Damper retrofit kit for V1,2&3 Expand

Hydraulic Damper universal kit for V1-3 pedals

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Kit consist of 1x Adjustable hydraulic damper, Composite damper holder, 2x Din912 M8x40, 1x Din912 M8x80, 2x Din912 M6x35 screws, 2x Aluminum 16,5mm long ring Stand-offs ( Spacers)

Compatible with MFG Crosswing V1,V2 and V3 pedals
Adjustable damping force (23 increments)
Installation on V1,V2 is a bit more complex than on V3
Allan imbus key for M8 screw not supplied - available as acessory

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Make sure you read "important usage guidelines" before use !!!

This kit includes all components both to retrofit on older V1,V2 pedals as well as to just install on V3 pedals. On V3 pedals damper can also be fitted same way as on V2 pedals which might be a preference to some people if they mind 3% asymetry on V3 mounting solution. Mounting as V2 provide perfectly simetric forces but require longer installation.
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Few of our capable customers have installed hydraulic damper on MFG Crosswind by themselves in the past, using various adaptations and whitnessing it's nice effects to realisam. After spreading their thoughts around the globe we started to get inquiries for these. As damper can be implemented in various ways, and various shapes and forms, it took MFG Team a while to source proper quality components to produce desired effects on rudder pedals and test for the best adaptation.

Our solution is elegant as always ... instalation is simple, does not increase overall footprint of the pedals even when in motion, damper adjustment is at fingertip with correct and smooth damping force. Importantly enough - this add-on will not break the bank or pedals :-))

Hydraulic damper is NOT a necessity for pedals, but it substantially improves overall feel and realisam on the pedals !!!

What hydraulic damper does is add smooth fluid friction to rudder axis motion, and that friction can be finely adjusted by 23 increments on the damper, therefore customer has a choice of using no friction at all - and up to very hard friction.

You may ask why anyone want such friction. Well, by using damper pedals start to feel "heavy" as in real aircraft, fast changes in direction are harder to do - as in real aircraft and therefore it is harder to "overshoot the enemy" in a dogfight. Helicopter anti torque pedals are A LOT BETTER SIMULATED with damper and centering spring detatched on pedals, Airliner simulator also benefit of hydraulic feel as in real aircraft.

So this lead me to conclusion... if you can afford it - use damper on your pedals

"Over the center" mounting
Due to force vector influence, user will not get symetric forces when a damper is mounted "on a side"...therefore we now factory prepare dampers for "over the center" mounting, as shown in our video.

Precaution when mounting as V1/V2 pedals
 - Since this mounting solution require rear pivot axis disassembly  it is important to keep all parts in place by hand. Some customers drop it on a table and have difficulty to assembe it all back as it was.

 - As very long bolt passes trough rear bearing assembly it is important that nut is tightened just enough, but also that damper is tightened fully to avoid play in the damper motion when changing direction. Sometimes only solution is to actually overtighten the nut to get everything in place and to release the nut a bit at the end to avoid damaging small 628 2RS bearing at the bottom. My favorite solution is to hammer on screw head from the top to be sure it is seated all the way in and then to tighten the nut :-)

 - Using long bolt M8x80 or failing to put aluminum stand off (spacer) in place will guaranteed result in Damper plate for V1/2 splitting in 2 pieces, and therefore new part will be needed. ( as 2x CAM bolts are holding it down and screw being too deep in the hole compresses to front lever it essentially purhes mounting plate UP with 3000 kg force, therefore spliting part in 2 pieces. Watch Video instructions carefully to avoid this mistake !!!


Hydraulic fluid leaks
Hydraulic fluid can leak a little or much depending on adjusted force on a damper and the cause of the leak. In all cases fluid leakage will also allow air to enter the damper which will cause "gap's" in fluid motion of the damper. Only a small quantity of leaked fluid can therefore transform a damper from enjoyment to annoying device :-). As it is a specialized craft, 99.5% users will NOT be capable to repair the damper (refill the fluid and get rid of air)
- Usual cause of damper leak is end user trying to rotate adjustment knob towards " UP " after damper is already assembled. By doing so user will actually unscrew the "damper head" which house adjustment knob, just enough for fluid to leak a bit and air to go in. DONT DO THAT !!!
- Adjustment knob can rotate in 23 increments. By forcing it to rotate further after end stop can damage it's seal ring and causes damper to leak a little around the knob.

Adjustment knob got stuck
This is an issue we are trying to address on next batch. When adjustment knob is rotated all the way to either side (increment 0 or 23) it can get stuck by means that it is too hard to rotate it by hand. Customer will need to carefully use pliers to get it un-stuck. Key here is to know on which side to turn. You can determine by feel on the pedals if it's on strongest or weakest setting and then read direction on adjustment knob where you need to rotate. Rotating in wrong direction can break the knob or damage the seal.

Reading above cases, taking into account low price of this item, I am sure customers will understand that it is almost impossible for us to determine if damper got faulty by itself or by your improper use due to nature of the unit. Therefore warranty on this item is very limited !!! (Warranty claims are almost 1% on this item and not all are approved !!!)

Damper assembly video

Follow video installation guide carefully to avoid assembly mistakes and damage on damper retrofit plate for V2 !

Recomended mounting "Over the center" as explained at the end of assembly video !

If you dont have it, Buy necessary imbus key 6mm

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09/23/2021

Nice Upgrade...

...gives a much smoother feeling to the pedals.
you also need a bit more power to move the pedal.
The movement is much more precise now ... Many Thank
(Had a bad damper... Milan gave me an instant replacement ...Top Service ! )

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    09/20/2021

    Damper Upgrade

    The buying decision was not hard at all, tested a damper on friend's pedals which impressed me. My Crosswind V2's could only get better with this upgrade.

    Ordering and delivery top class as usual. Installation was a breeze after looking at the video for it. Opted for the centered setup. Now the feel is totally different, much more precise. Still testing for the best damping settings, but getting there.

    Again a big thank you to Milan for Making the Crosswind pedals even better :)

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      09/20/2021

      Hydraulic Damper kit on V3 pedals

      The installation could not be easier and the damper adds a great feel to the pedal set. Great product!

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        09/19/2021

        Great addition to very good pedals

        Good quality and gives a very good feeling when using the pedals. It's a big difference to the setup with just the spring.
        Also thanks for the great support from Milan!

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          09/17/2021

          A wonderful addition to a great product!

          My damper arrived in the USA quickly, in just a few days and in good condition. It's a beautiful, quality choice of damper product and like all MFG products, has well-made components to attach it to my rudder pedals.

          I'm glad I got the retrofit version for my V-3 pedals, as it offered me several different mounting choices. I found one that works well for me and is different from the V-3-only version.

          The damping is just buttery-smooth, it's adjustable smoothly over a very wide range, so should satisfy anybody looking for just a little more realism in their flight sim. Haven't tried it in helicopter configuration yet (tension spring disconnected), but I'm sure it would benefit that as well.

            Grade 
            09/17/2021

            great addition to the pedals

            Game changer, at least for me

              Grade 
              09/15/2021

              Highly recommended

              I usually fly airliners and always felt the pedals too light or jittery around the center position.
              That is now gone completely. Installation needed only 10 minutes.

                Grade 
                09/10/2021

                Damper kit

                This kit really does improve the feel of the rudders. Nicely adjustable, easy to fit, and very well made.

                  Grade 
                  09/07/2021

                  Great Add On

                  I got this last week and really like the effect it has on the rudder pedals. They appear to be so much smoother than just using the spring. Great Job

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                    09/07/2021

                    Great addon!

                    Very happy with Hydraulic Damper. It adds a level of realism that was missing in the stock MFG V2 Pedals that I have enjoyed for the last 4 years.

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                      09/06/2021

                      Very Smooth

                      The build quality of this hydraulic damper really surprised me. It's a very high quality part. The installation video was easy to follow. This product really smoothed out the operation of the rudder pedals, I highly recommend!

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                        09/06/2021

                        Hydraulic Damper Universal Kit for V1-3 Pedals

                        They arrived quickly and thanks to the video on how to install them, it turned into an easy and quick process. They work well and I am totally pleased with this purchase. Very glad that I ordered the 6mm HEX key.

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                          09/06/2021

                          Mod Kit

                          I have to say, even with COVID world wide, my Mod Kit had arrived inside 2 weeks. That to New Zealand from Croatia. Easy to install. They feel totally different from using the original spring. Great stuff Milan.

                          Just a note, nothing to do with this company but I had 2 times an email and a txt saying if I didn’t want any delay with my order that I would need to pay. One guy who txt me from Australia sent me a request but I had already received it. I suspect it some people in the sorting points trying to make some extra coin.

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                            09/05/2021

                            I didn't expect much.

                            I honestly didn't expect much from this mod kit.
                            I figured the base pedals I bought in 2017 was very good indeed to this day.

                            But why not try I figured.
                            During the rather simple installation, I honestly started to expect even less.

                            Well that changed immediately as I fired up my DCS Huey with the centering spring disconnected.
                            The pedals where no less than transformed, it's like having an in position trim system.
                            You put them where you need them, and they stay there.

                            Then I try the hornet, hook the spring back on, and again the pedals are transformed, even in this aircraft module many would cliam "you don't need rudder pedals for the hornet" the pedals are transformed into something utterly different, something better.
                            Can't wait to get the time to setup in the F14.

                              Grade 
                              09/05/2021

                              Absolutely Perfect

                              Besides the arrival to the states in a matter of days, this damper kit is an amazing piece of technology and craftsmanship… installation was a breeze following the on line video. The difference in feel was and is great. The action is more fluid and realistic. The adjustment make it so easy to get the pedal movement to that sweet spot of your preference. I, personally like a higher tension so that I am not making slight course corrections from just resting my feet on the pedals for an extended period of time. That feature along with the ability to adjust the tension spring let me dial in that perfect amount of tension that I was looking for.

                              All in all, it is exactly what I would expect from Milan. Well Done!

                                Grade 
                                09/05/2021

                                Perfect upgrade

                                A perfect add on for the pedals. Thanks very much!

                                  Grade 
                                  09/05/2021

                                  MFG products are top notch

                                  Really like the added smoothness and damping resistance on my V2 pedals. It now matches the damped resistance feel of the rest of my flight gear perfectly. I added some $5 bike shock lube (designed to preserve the integrity of the damper piston seals) to the shaft of the piston and that got rid of any slight static friction, so it's buttery smooth and feels perfect.

                                    Grade 
                                    09/05/2021

                                    Excellent product!

                                    Fast shipment, excellent build quality and clear instructional video available.
                                    Very happy

                                      Grade 
                                      09/05/2021

                                      MFG Peddal Damper -Excellent Quality

                                      Easy to install and amazing value for money, clearly care about the cost to the end customer and the quality suggests they could have charged more. Great feel and fully adjustable very happy indeed thank you!

                                        Grade 
                                        09/03/2021

                                        Pure Genius Engineering!

                                        Bought this unit for my MFG's and it absolutely creates an even more of the sensation of real world flying..the added "resistance" makes the control so much more like a real plane...My legs are getting a good work out in the sim just like they do when flying in the real world! Highly recommend the kit for anyone looking for an even more enjoyable time in the sim.

                                          Grade 
                                          09/03/2021

                                          Super service

                                          Once the product was available again, I made the purchase and couldn’t be happier. Easy installation following online video. Package arrived quickly after purchase and was kept in the loop with tracking. Only used it for 6 hrs now but what a difference.
                                          Thanks for an excellent upgrade.

                                            Grade 
                                            09/02/2021

                                            The good now even better

                                            The damper is solid, easy to mount with the instruction and makes my rudder pedals even more realistic. I enjoy both every time that I am using my sim to stay current with my IFR flying. Milan, stay with the high quality in your products, That always pays off for you and your company!

                                              Grade 
                                              09/02/2021

                                              Hydraulic Damper V1,2 & 3

                                              What a difference this product makes!. The Crosswind pedals are absolutely fantastic but the hydraulic damper set take flight simulation to a new level! Many, many thanks Milan from a very satisfied customer. Thoroughly recommendable!

                                                Grade 
                                                09/02/2021

                                                Feels great

                                                Easy to install this upgrade and makes flying much more fun.
                                                Especially flying helicopters without the spring coupled feels so good now.

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                                                  09/01/2021

                                                  Hydraulic Dampener retrofit

                                                  Easy to install and works well. Very nice feel and can now use the pedals for flying Heli's when I sidconnect the centering spring. Great upgrade :)

                                                    Grade 
                                                    09/01/2021

                                                    Works Great!

                                                    Just buy it!

                                                      Grade 
                                                      09/01/2021

                                                      Works Nicely, reassembly instructions could be clearer

                                                      My only complaint is that my pedals (v2) did not look exactly like the pedals in the video (v1, I guess). I was able to get it back together OK, but when the bearing started falling out all I wanted was a blow up diagram of how to put them together properly. The video jumps after the last bolt is taken off so there's nothing to gather from it.

                                                      The v1 to v2 upgrade video gave me enough to go on, but trying to find YT videos while handling grease covered bearings is no fun.

                                                        Grade 
                                                        08/31/2021

                                                        Game Changer!

                                                        Totally different feel to original. You feel the back pressure from the pedals… Worth adding to your setup… new or older pedals… Highly recommended!

                                                          Grade 
                                                          05/22/2021

                                                          Feeling improvment

                                                          After two weeks of daily use (1 to 2 hrs/day)
                                                          I do confirmed the rudder feeling and control is really improved. Allowing tiddly up and down in my Magnificent flying machine ;-)

                                                          • 3 out of 3 people found this review useful.
                                                          Grade 
                                                          05/17/2021

                                                          Experience feedback

                                                          It's a good product.
                                                          Easy to assemble.
                                                          Improves the feeling of flight.

                                                          • 4 out of 4 people found this review useful.
                                                          Grade 
                                                          05/08/2021

                                                          Incredible transformation

                                                          These pedals were amazing before this upgrade but now with the dampener installed they feel absolutely amazing! This is a no brainer, if you own these pedals this is a must have upgrade.

                                                          • 4 out of 4 people found this review useful.
                                                          Grade 
                                                          05/07/2021

                                                          They only get better

                                                          This is an amazing upgrade for the already awesome MFG Crosswinds. The damper is capable of really making you have to work. Even at low settings it stops any oscilation at the center if I were to take my foot off from full deflection. I haven't taken my spring off and flow a helo yet, but I can't help but imagine it's going to be an amazing experience. Some disassembly and reassembly required, but honestly, Milan's pedals are designed in a way that makes it easy. Pay attention to how things fit when you're removing bolts. Take pictures. You'll be up and running in no time with this thing.

                                                          • 3 out of 3 people found this review useful.
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                                                          05/04/2021

                                                          Hydraulique Damper

                                                          Bonjour,
                                                          Ce matériel apporte un plus pour le pilotage des avions notamment les avions à hélices .Il est de très bonne qualité et le montage n'est pas compliqué . j'en suis très satisfait , je l'utilise avec la came C 5 . La vis de réglage de la dureté du vérin permet d'obtenir une large plage d'utilisation ( de la plus souple à la plus dure ).Le ressort ne sert plus qu'à ramener le palonnier au neutre .
                                                          Cordialement

                                                          • 3 out of 3 people found this review useful.
                                                          Grade 
                                                          05/04/2021

                                                          dumper is OK ;)

                                                          Dumper is not necessary, but it smooth the spring oscillation, so in some cases it is helpful. Overall feel is also better. I can recommend it for anyone looking for better realism factor.

                                                          • 2 out of 2 people found this review useful.
                                                          Grade 
                                                          05/02/2021

                                                          Smooth is just a word

                                                          We all love our midrange MFGs, they're awesome! Great pedals, great cam. Not as great as the top of the line Thrustmasters, but who cares. Seriously. They're good value. Now screw that dampener on them to take the "springy" feel out. Ohhh boy, you're gonna be suprised. Now you will feel that hydraulic feel, that smooth resistance, and your MFGs will become something that can compete with the top of the line, but for much less, and easy to work on and fix! 5☆ from me! My Spit feels like something else!

                                                          • 2 out of 2 people found this review useful.
                                                          Grade 
                                                          04/30/2021

                                                          Great upgrade!

                                                          Shipping was crazy fast, and installation was a breeze. The damper takes the MFG pedals to the next level. I have much better control in my favorite sims. Highly recommended.

                                                          • 1 out of 1 people found this review useful.
                                                          Grade 
                                                          04/29/2021

                                                          Crosswind Damper Kit

                                                          Excellent upgrade! All parts very high quality ... the fit: impeccable. Everything went together without any problems. The instructional video was very clear and easy to follow. Very, very pleased.

                                                          • 1 out of 1 people found this review useful.
                                                          Grade 
                                                          04/26/2021

                                                          Love it!

                                                          I think it is absolutely worth it. When you increase the dampening the pedal movements become much smoother. The only downside I can see is that as you increase the dampening you need to also tighten the spring or change you cam as the spring will be a bit too weak to perfectly re-center the pedals. As you fly it's not as big of a deal though as you normally have your feet on the pedals and make small adjustments. It has perfect fit, easy and fast to mount after watching the assembly video and it also make the pedals look cool.

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                                                            04/25/2021

                                                            A great addon

                                                            Very pleased with this addon for my V2 pedals. Easy to mount after watching the instruction video.

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                                                              04/24/2021

                                                              Great product!!!

                                                              Upgraded both my V1 and V2.. Install easy, Definite improvement for an already awesome set of hardware!!!

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                                                                04/22/2021

                                                                Good investment

                                                                Nice piece of equipment, easy to install.

                                                                  Grade 
                                                                  04/21/2021

                                                                  Excellent product!

                                                                  Higly recommended upgrade to my MFG pedals. Realy improves realism.

                                                                    Grade 
                                                                    04/19/2021

                                                                    Greatest pedals just got better!

                                                                    The best rudderpedals got better with the hydraulic damper kit. Easy to install, easy to tune to your liking. It feels great, smooth and better rudder operation.

                                                                      Grade 
                                                                      04/18/2021

                                                                      Super

                                                                      Everybody with crosswind pedals,must have the dampers ,its a must have;It makes the already very good pedals even much beter.concrats to milan you are great man .

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                                                                        04/18/2021

                                                                        Damper for V2 pedals

                                                                        Delivery very prompt and as estimated.
                                                                        Took me about 20 min to fit - no problems.
                                                                        Seems good quality and really adds to the flying experience.

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                                                                          04/18/2021

                                                                          Working Beautifully!

                                                                          The damper is great for planes, and even better for helicopters making operation excellent with the centering spring removed.

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                                                                            04/17/2021

                                                                            Straightforward, rugged, great improvement

                                                                            This is a high quality improvement for your Crosswinds, already the best pedals for your simulations. The damper makes them great for helos too. Not simple to fit, but straightforward, if you know what I mean. Good value. Many thanks!

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                                                                              04/16/2021

                                                                              This makes them perfect

                                                                              As much as I loved my pedals, I thought they were lacking in resistance and were too easy to push and difficult to smoothly get back to center. The damper on my v2 pedals gives the perfect amount of resistance I was looking for, makes them super smooth and recenters without any bouncing. If you have a set of crosswind rudder pedals you seriously need to get this damper.

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                                                                                04/16/2021

                                                                                Awesome addition to the pedals

                                                                                This is really nice and well built. The feel is so much better just the springs. It definitely feels more realistic for me based on real world flight experience.

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                                                                                  04/13/2021

                                                                                  Wonderful Upgrade

                                                                                  Usual efficient shipping from Milan even when I made a mistake about the model (i'm on a V2), watched the video and took my time an installed in 30 mins or so. Adds a fantastic improvement to the feeling of the pedals. Recommended.

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                                                                                    04/03/2021

                                                                                    Damper Kit for V1/2

                                                                                    Ok---- just get these !!! Adds even more realism and feel to these already great rudder pedals. Be sure to watch Milan's how to video on installation--- hmmm, I saw some new combat pedals in the video------ Perfect !!!!! Thanks Milan !!!!!!

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